By now (2024), and for several years, much of the specifics of this post are outdated (Panoramino doesn't exist and Wikimapia seems to be a lot less used), but perhaps you'll see ways to transfer methods, if you notice anything useful.
Also, please notice: this is a layman's post. If you read it please don't skip the notes at the bottom. Also before you decide what to think of my writings: please read through my latest post (plead added 03/06/2014).
Intro:
This is a step by step guide to enable you to use original language place-names and Wikimapia to find locations of on-line material such as YouTube videos, or Flickr photos.
Below the method is used with a YouTube video from Syria.
(when I prepared this post, I didn't notice, the Google interface wasn't switched to English. My apologies).
And please keep in mind: this process involves a number of sources, that all are open to either mistakes or deliberate misinformation(see note 1). Therefore, unless the locations found are corroborated they can not be considered certain. Step 7 points to some of the ways to increase certainty, and the additional tools described further down can also help in this part of the process.
1: In YouTube; high-light the relevant text (in this case the title of the video) right click, and choose "search Google for.....".
4: Select and copy the corresponding word in the original language.
5: Paste the word into the search field in Wikimapia, and click the search button. A list of possible locations will be displayed (if any exists). In this case there was only one, but if - as more often - there are several possible locations, try to zoom out and place the cursor over the different names. You will se that a red dot shows the different positions.
6: Use your judgment to single out the most likely match, click it, and the map will be centered on the location. Syria turns out to be described quite detailed in the Wikimapia database.
7: If possible, zoom in and use characteristic objects to verify the location. Sometimes this can be supported by orientation determined by direction of sunlight, the street layout, landscape characteristics or any other distinctive elements.
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additional tools:
In the following I have shown a few other ways of seeking information about locations. But there will surely be many other possibilities, and some of them much smarter than what I have come up with, therefore please only take this as an inspiration.
... and any tips and smart tricks will be happily received as comments to this post.
- photo services:
The place identification can sometimes be cross referenced by mapped photos in photo services (Panoramio is sought used in this case).
No corroboration is found for this location, but inside cities this tool can sometimes help you to understand, what buildings are used for, or to check significant shapes of landmarks like minarets or churches.
- Google Earth:
Another way to acces the Panoramio server is through Google Earth. There selected Panoramio photos have tumb-nail-links (if 'photos' is activate). The same is the case with Google Maps. But Google Earth have more photos, and it also have a history slide, which sometimes can help corroborate a location - or can reveal additional information (I've used that for the post 'Hama Military Airport').
Click the year-number in lower left corner (arrow). The slide appears in the upper left corner (other arrow), with that you can choose from a varying number of aerials within an also varying time-span.
Intro:
This is a step by step guide to enable you to use original language place-names and Wikimapia to find locations of on-line material such as YouTube videos, or Flickr photos.
Below the method is used with a YouTube video from Syria.
(when I prepared this post, I didn't notice, the Google interface wasn't switched to English. My apologies).
And please keep in mind: this process involves a number of sources, that all are open to either mistakes or deliberate misinformation(see note 1). Therefore, unless the locations found are corroborated they can not be considered certain. Step 7 points to some of the ways to increase certainty, and the additional tools described further down can also help in this part of the process.
2: When in Google search; choose "Translate".
3: In the translated text; place the cursor over, what you believe to be the name of the place/city. The corresponding original language text will be highlighted.
You might have to work a little to isolate the right piece of text. Here - for some reason - a dash is high-lighted together with the place name. It didn't effect the search though.
Also, sometimes i seems that pieces of text, that the translator can't find meaning to, becomes meaningful if it is broken up with spaces.
Also, sometimes i seems that pieces of text, that the translator can't find meaning to, becomes meaningful if it is broken up with spaces.
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additional tools:
In the following I have shown a few other ways of seeking information about locations. But there will surely be many other possibilities, and some of them much smarter than what I have come up with, therefore please only take this as an inspiration.
... and any tips and smart tricks will be happily received as comments to this post.
- photo services:
No corroboration is found for this location, but inside cities this tool can sometimes help you to understand, what buildings are used for, or to check significant shapes of landmarks like minarets or churches.
- Google Earth:
Click the year-number in lower left corner (arrow). The slide appears in the upper left corner (other arrow), with that you can choose from a varying number of aerials within an also varying time-span.
- Google search:
The original language place name can also be (re)entered in Google search. This can bring up related material (other videos, FaceBook pages etc.).
This can also be done with the entire video-title to search for the original video uploader.
- Wikipedia:
Wikipedia in the original language can also be used to search the place name. In this case this search offered only a short description of the village.
The Wikipedia page also links to a large list of on-line maps/aerial services (arrow). This makes it easy to check different services for the most useful material.
Also: if there appears to be no match for the place name, it might be due to different spellings. Both Google Translate and Wikipedia suggest alternative Arabic spellings/words. Using them might bring your search forward.
If you have a name of a city/town/village in latin lettering (which will often give you no results in Wikimapia) this Directory of Cities, Towns, and Regions in Syria might help you with a possible location (recommended by
@bigmo1965).
@bigmo1965).
Having found a possible location; further evidence or even confirmation can sometimes be established through other videos from the same area. The post Syrian Channel Listings on Brown Moses Blog lists YouTube channels by the cities/areas they are linked to. This might enable you to find material related to the video you are investigating.
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note 1: one issue to be aware of in particular, is that in some cases
the same name is used for cities in several differrent regions (thanks to @bigmo1965 for the reminder).
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